Topic: Attitude and discipline in spirit communication.
ED. COPY OF TAPE OF TRANCE CIRCLE MEETING No.590. Held 28th April, 2005.

Attitude and Discipline in Spirit Communication

Spirit (Ling): Greetings.

Tonight’s talk is indirectly (and I will point out the difference), associated with last week’s talk. If we wanted to give it a name we would call it ‘Attitude and discipline in spirit communication’.

As you may or may not be aware, the attitude today of unfortunately a very large number of communicating folk on your side, is undisciplined, and initially if they are in it for fun they may get away with it, and it is forgotten.

But there are also the so-called dead people, who are foolish and undisciplined, who perhaps have a tendency I won’t say ‘towards evil’, but they are not quite shall we say 'balanced’.

Now as you are aware, when you die you are exactly the same as you are now in your thinking, your mind, your computer, your soul… whatever you like to think of that which continues on. You are not automatically an angel. You still have your faults, your hatreds, your undisciplined manners in many ways.

Now these people want to continue as they were, with their sadism, cruelty, or whatever vice they may have, and they are frustrated because they have no longer the physical body to do this, but they are sufficiently intelligent, that they soon realise that there are people on earth that they can influence. They may not be able to talk through them although even this is possible, but they can influence them against what we would like to call true communication.

One of our reasons for speaking as we did last week, (that we didn't expect you to attend your circle if you are not well), was because then you may not be as strong in your discipline. Now there again you have to think carefully. If you have a broken arm and it is set, and it is gradually getting better, you are probably quite capable of sitting in circle, and also for numerous other things that can be wrong with your physical body.

But if for any reason your health is much undermined, be disciplined in saying, “No I will not sit tonight”. That is because someone, who mentally at this stage perhaps is stronger than you, could negate your good, and influence you in some way that could be upsetting to those around you. I don’t mean that you are going to hit someone or anything like that, but mean just because of the very atmosphere that may build up around you, because in a weakened condition you may then be more susceptible to the influence of those who are not good.

Now we will suggest that there is no one around you of an evil tendency, but circle work is still using up some of your energy that you may need to help yourself get better from whatever is wrong with you. And of course, depending again on what is wrong with you, you could pass it on to fellow members in your circle, and that is probably, only what you are thinking of, basically.

The whole success of a good circle, good mediumship of any type, which includes healing, must be a strong and determined mind, brain, soul, call it what you will, to do what is good, and to be strong enough to resist any undisciplined soul that may come around.

Now you people over many years now, have been successful. You have had people coming through, perhaps not all of them would be what you call ‘lily white’, but you have been strong enough to be capable of helping them, or resisting them, or whatever is necessary, and this we want you to be able to continue to do. But it is becoming harder for many people to keep this up, because unfortunately spiritualism, spirit love, discipline, is having a difficult time, as you no doubt realise yourselves because in many parts of the world, and including parts of your little country, there is undisciplined thinking, and that is what we want to protect you from. But we can only help you, if you help yourselves.

Is there anything you care to ask about that which I have just spoken?

Sitter (K): Sometimes it is rather difficult Ling to make a decision on when one is capable and when one is not, for if one is feeling physically ill then of course it is easy, but if one has been to a hospital for treatment which takes it out of you a bit but you still feel reasonably ok, though you may not know it you may have been physically undermined, so how is one to judge when one should, or should not, attend a circle in those circumstances?

Spirit: If you feel physically weary, and lack what you would call upliftment, don’t attend. But if you have that feeling that all is going right, well it is up to you to decide – common sense.

Sitter: Oh good, thank you.

Sitter (H): Ling you were saying there are some spirits over there that are not particularly nice. Are the people who pass over all mixed up, the nice, the normal and the bad as we are here, or is there some sort of segregation?

Spirit: The people we are speaking of, really are those that have not been able to accept another world, they are still very close to the earth. Those who are good people, kindly people, they may be lost but they don’t want to harm anyone else – but there are undisciplined people who if they can’t get what they want, they just don’t care who they hurt, and those are the ones that we’ve got to try and guard ourselves against.

We try to help them. You must guard yourself against them, and we do our best to help people to guard you, but we would like you to help yourselves as well.

Sitter: Thank you.

Spirit: Well if there are no further questions, we will say good night, but don’t let it worry you friends, don’t let it worry you, you are doing fine.

But it is just a little warning, because the world is getting a bit difficult at times, as I’m sure you are well aware.

Goodnight and God bless you.

This was Ling.

The source of this material is Ken Hanson of Waiheke Island, New Zealand, whose Cockney wife is the Medium.
Ken passed to the Higher Life in August, 2009.

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